Current Debian stable ships with kernel 3.2.41 so no need for backports. Debian 7.0 codename "wheezy" released May 4th. I have already upgraded my firewalls to Debian 7.0 and so far so good. Next up is one of my main servers which runs a few services like web, NTP, Samba and is currently powered by Debian 6.0. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: 9. mai 2013 16:01 To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Switching to Linux All I did was to do a talking install the current debian stable. Orca came up talking on the login screen when I rebooted after finishing the install. Some recommendations: 1. Go with debian stable. 2. Consider doing a dist upgrade to stable backports. This gets you a 3.2 kernel. 3. Use firefox and thunderbird from mozilla on sourceforge. Do not use the equivalent debian packages. 4. Gedit is more than adequate as a replacement for notepad. 5. Consider buying voxin. Voxin is eloquence for linux. You get the same voice as jaws. It costs $6 from the oralux project. (Google it.) Voxin may not be as stable as espeak but I like the voice much more. On 05/09/13 02:27, Tony Baechler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > What changes did you have to make to your daily routine when you made the > switch? I already use Firefox and Thunderbird here, but I'm still > primarily on XP. I use my Linux server daily, but I purposely haven't put > X on it. I have a small 10 GB installation of Debian unstable with X and > experimental, but Orca fails to work, or at least I don't have speech when > I try to start it. Speakup, of course, works great. I pretty much had > the same bad experiences with Orca as other people and I didn't try to do > anything fancy. In fact, Vinux crashed almost constantly in Orca but not > Speakup. I had to use a Speakup console to kill my Orca session and > reboot. I read on the Debian accessibility list to enable experimental to > bring in the latest Orca improvements, but it didn't seem to help. If > anything, it made things worse as I had a constant stream of broken > packages. Now that Wheezy is out, I'll try again one of these days > soon-ish. I'm not worried about moving my profiles over from Windows, but > I'm more wondering about changes made from an accessibility point of view. > In other words, if someone with little to no Linux experience (not me, > but someone else) wanted to make the full-time switch to Orca, how well > could it be done and what adjustments would they have to make compared to > doing things the Windows way? > > On 5/8/2013 10:57 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >> >> >> >> Huh, you're the second person in this thread to say that about orca. >> But I just decided to switch to linux full time a few months ago and it >> was pretty much a breeze. I had been using that other operating system >> too but almost all the end users I support use linux (all good >> mathematicians do). So I felt I was cheating by not using linux. But I >> have had little to no trouble switching to linux with orca. I use >> thunderbird & firefox constantly. It's not quite as good as >> Windows/jaws but honestly, I made the transition fairly easily. >> >> I am really shocked to hear all these complaints about orca. Not to >> doubt you. It's just that it doesn't jibe with my experience at all. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRi0/LAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0y+yMP/RxUIuVbYrTv8cGcEo1aNMEj > g2qstErfKEtEZKUapAryVr/QfVXdpVt10bPdynFqScKKKQfjMqTmP3CkoCVO02Ao > BGhDnReuc4BI/DWuDnqJYayUusvjINnII47w4cjbfbLY+OEwmOajGlnvTLwIB6p5 > +VVoCKdzIbTBrDk08lCSso24TToNfmVYUMBUDT8mBnRwGNjN182eDVPWy8PAvIUK > QdkTOr1X1RMnn+6JsoHybRr3Owo55ILnL+XDQLEnUe1f5aGlrVXT9sdLPcCwa/uH > Ff61apGsMOX20dZ2DiB4U8aiTuU0dV81eTywFt1UZmu8dGLsEGnhvHRCoNEl0JEN > XwGH61/DdfpXnlBeusHG7quq2mTjPEy4dMpxaDoaVDVVVOf65TnVBcBBUupxZ44W > ZEY/AgbJ5eOFwd8ZZouiVNIQt+BX7gRQ5wVjHwEXlx6d3kNVEsxKIVxhx24+gpXx > Ro5Ci3fUoX/TCK3JjznxnkM7ZVPoom5B1s5ZEjEwfbVNBkOp7G6zOAeFO8N7EyRS > V8upZXTkL+GWi2vT4bfyYz14yo1Vge22OoFXuPc5nftrjvKcKtzuw5QleYct3MYT > UbMbZ0mmKSpVG58P7r6gQljOT0eWCq5z8wLXPzNmCcHAt8Tf9604upZClz7axGnT > 0Kq+DEY+LDiEBVmqsdKs > =Ghdw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- --- John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim at math.wisc.edu _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
