I'll ask IAVIT's lawyer about it this afternoon. I know he feels very strongly about this stuff but I can't volunteer his time. I am about as sure as I can be though, that he will be willing to advise anyone who wants to get started. I'm sure he can tell you exactly what you have a right to ask of Red Hat and what to do if they turn you down. On 03/29/2013 10:33 AM, Amanda Rush wrote: > I spoke to my local and state NFB representatives last year around this > time, and was told that if I could find a lawyer who would take this on, > and provide the money and other such, then the NFB would then maybe be > willing to back this. But since I'm not rich, and don't have steady work, > this is pretty much impossible. I would love to find someone possibly more > in the know/higher up to talk to. People's jobs and educations are on the > line because of this. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of John > G. Heim > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:48 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 > > IMO, the shocking thing isn't that REL doesn't have the speakup modules, > it's that Red Hat apparently just threw up it's hands and said, "Sorry, > blind people, no certs for you." Somebody should sue them. There's no > substitute for certification from RH itself. They *have* to make that > accessible. > > This is the kind of thing that steams my wheaties. It's part of the reason > I help create the International Association of Visually Impaired > Technologists (www.iavit.org). > > On 03/29/2013 10:33 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: >> Yes, Speakup wasn't officially in 2.6.32 kernels, but it could still >> be compiled as modules. Debian Squeeze ships it, but they don't use a >> Red Hat kernel. Even now, they can still make the argument that >> Speakup isn't "official" because it's in staging which is considered > unofficial. >> Regardless, there are other ways of accessing RHEL such as ssh and >> there is still no excuse why they can't comply with the ADA and make >> RHEL accessible for certification. Also, there is yasr and Gnome >> Terminal with Orca, so even without Speakup, there is still no excuse. >> That still doesn't address the graphical part of the requirement or >> the ability or lack thereof to use the VM. >> >> On 3/29/2013 6:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >>> I ttalked to someone here at the University of Wisconsin who manages >>> Red Hat servers. The UW has a site license for Red Hat. I don't know >>> anything about it because my department uses debian (lucky for me). >>> >>> Anyway, he said the reason RH still doesn't give you speakup is that >>> their current release still uses a 2.6.32 kernel and speakup wsn't >>> included in the official kernel source until 2.6.37 -- which is >>> correct, I believe. >>> >>> In a way, I can understand where RH is coming from but, holy cow, >>> they are making it impossible for blind people to get certification >>> from them. >>> That's >>> outrageous! I mean, I hate to use this cliche but this is an outrage. >>> Personally, I don't give a flying fig about Red Hat because my >>> department uses debian. But even so, I find this unconcionable. >>> Somebody ought to sue their ass. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
