can't see a darn thing, but this isn't a big deal. I have also acted as a teacher. Every summer I work with a program which teaches students with visual impairments to use technology. This usually involves Windows, but has involved Braille N Speaks, and other such devices. I hope, from what I learn here, to be able to teach my students that Linux can be an alternative. I'm a computer science major. This means that I spend most of my life programming. Again, most of this is in Windows, but I'm slowly learning about programming in Linux so I have the ability to work to make Linux as usable as Windows for all our every-day tasks. Its a slow process, because Linux is different from anything I've delt with before. I'm rambling. If you've gotten this far in my message, you're probably sick of me. Well, I don't blame you. I've spent a great deal of time on this all because I want to see that this discussion, if it must take up space in my inbox and I must exercise my delete finger on it, goes in a constructive direction. I think that is what we all want, so lets try to make that happen. Also, lets try to minimize the noise that others have to hear when reading this list. It makes me want to sumarily delete messages from this list, or unsubscribe, which I don't believe is any more constructive than the noise that clogs this list. Chris Peterson _______________ The Space Report Internet and satellite delivered news from space. Visit our web site at www.TheSpaceReport.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster > Hi all, > > I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be > getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. > You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to > aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be > Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build > it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that > needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of > making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else > accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to > think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, > that includes every single person who might want to access whatever > the heck it is. > > If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare > is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion > on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. > <smile> What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a > Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making > something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the > Linux system to persons who are blind? > > Ann P. > > P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing > to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my > post. <smile> Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, > though. So, I have continued it. > > A.P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >