right. I can't see a darn thing, but this isn't a big deal. I have also acted as a teacher. Every summer I work with a program = which teaches students with visual impairments to use technology. This = usually involves Windows, but has involved Braille N Speaks, and other such = devices. I hope, from what I learn here, to be able to teach my students that = Linux can be an alternative. I'm a computer science major. This means that I spend most of my life programming. Again, most of this is in Windows, but I'm slowly learning about programming in Linux so I have the ability to work to make Linux = as usable as Windows for all our every-day tasks. Its a slow process, = because Linux is different from anything I've delt with before. I'm rambling. If you've gotten this far in my message, you're probably = sick of me. Well, I don't blame you. I've spent a great deal of time on = this all because I want to see that this discussion, if it must take up space = in my inbox and I must exercise my delete finger on it, goes in a = constructive direction. I think that is what we all want, so lets try to make that happen. Also, lets try to minimize the noise that others have to hear = when reading this list. It makes me want to sumarily delete messages from = this list, or unsubscribe, which I don't believe is any more constructive = than the noise that clogs this list. Chris Peterson _______________ The Space Report Internet and satellite delivered news from space. Visit our web site at www.TheSpaceReport.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows = a page from Napster > Hi all, > > I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be > getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. > You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to > aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be > Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build > it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that > needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of > making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else > accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to > think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, > that includes every single person who might want to access whatever > the heck it is. > > If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare > is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion > on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. > <smile> What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a > Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making > something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the > Linux system to persons who are blind? > > Ann P. > > P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing > to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my > post. <smile> Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, > though. So, I have continued it. > > A.P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are = lost." JRRT > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup