Hi people, That was smooth as silk. It turns out that removing the old speakup package did not silence speech output, so doing that before the actual upgrade was possible, and also necessary, since pacman wouldn't install the new kernel while the old speakup was still there. No issues so far, but my uptime is now only 4 minutes and 6 seconds. Chuck -- Website: hallenbeck.ftml.net, Jabber ID: chuckh1 at jabber.org