Hello, Its mainly just a quick note to say I just updated my ArchLinux system to use kernel 2.6.37 and the upgrade went perfectly fine and speakup came up talking afterwards. So to all involved in getting speakup into the kernel and those working on integrating thanks. Chris it was useful to have your message saying that speakup needed to be uninstalled first. While it may initially seem like one might loose speech output as for a short time speakup is officially uninstalled the running kernel kept the speakup modules running while the upgrade to 2.6.37 was done and so no such loss occurred. I just wonder whether there was a better way to do this, eg. a speakup dummy package for kernel 2.6.37 which provides speakup, so pacman could substitute that in for speakup in the upgrade process and one could remove that dummy package afterwards. Michael Whapples