Hi, I got speakup working via speech-dispatcher and speechd-up mostly because I had started trying to figure this out before I'd heard about espeakup or the ibm tts specific connector. I'm now running the ibm tts voice via gnome-speech for orca and espeak via speechd-up in the console. They don't seem to be interfering with each other and it seems to be nice and responsive. Just a few things left to figure out now, such as how to get speakup and speechd-up running automatically when I boot up. I'll do my best to help out anyone wanting a similar setup to mine now I've got it going. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Hello and qeustion about SpeakUp > Hello, > One thing I forgot to mention, if you are planning to use espeak or > IBMtts (viavoice) then I recommend using espeakup or the ttsynth speakup > connector as these reduce the dependencies for getting the software to > work. You can still use those synths through speech-dispatcher and > speechd-up if you want, but using the specific connector software will > save the fustration if for some reason speech-dispatcher doesn't start > (eg. incorrect configuration, problem with install or even simply > forgetting to start it (I have done that, wondering why the system > didn't come up talking only to find I forgot to add speech-dispatcher to > the start up scripts)). > > Hope you get started with speakup and the command line fine, I believe > the command line is where the real power of Linux is released. > > Michael Whapples > On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 11:20 +0000, James & Nash wrote: >> Thank you Michael, you've been very helpful.Nice to see you on this list >> as >> well as the Orca list. >> >> Take care >> >> james >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples at aim.com> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:21 PM >> Subject: Re: Hello and qeustion about SpeakUp >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> > You are correct about the software speech output for speakup, it >> > depends >> > on which synthesiser you want to use as to what software you will need >> > to get it. If you want to use espeak, then use the espeakup software. >> > If >> > you have IBMtts (viavoice) then there is a speakup connector for it at >> > the ttsynth website. If you want to use another synthesiser supported >> > by >> > speech-dispatcher then you will need speech-dispatcher and speechd-up. >> > My experience is that you can use any of the above solutions and still >> > run orca without problems in the graphical console (at the moment I am >> > using espeak as the synth and espeakup to connect speakup to it and >> > gnome-speech for connecting orca to espeak). >> > >> > As for adding speakup to ubuntu, if the kernel version is 2.6.26 or >> > higher (use uname -r to get this information) then you can build >> > speakup >> > as modules. I am not quite sure which ubuntu packages you need to have >> > installed to be able to compile modules hopefully either someone else >> > will say or may be you know. You will then need to get speakup from git >> > or some recent copy of speakup (slackware has some snapshots of the git >> > repository on their ftp server >> > ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/k/). >> > Hopefully in that there will be sufficient information to tell you how >> > to perform the actual compilation of speakup as modules and how to >> > install it. >> > >> > Sorry I can't be more detailed about how to install speakup on ubuntu, >> > this is partly because I don't use ubuntu and I am so used to compiling >> > speakup into the actual kernel rather than compiling it as modules. >> > >> > There are some additional things to consider. Ubuntu uses pulseaudio. I >> > feel ubuntu deals with pulseaudio in the wrong manner, sound is a >> > system >> > resource and if pulseaudio is meant to be the way to access audio >> > devices then it should be treated as a system service, they seem to >> > think it is a gnome service. The short of this is that whatever output >> > software you choose for speakup will have to deal with pulseaudio >> > running when you have a gnome session running and also cope with >> > pulseaudio not running when there is no active gnome-session. You may >> > (if you haven't) want to look at removing pulseaudio. You may want to >> > look at other distros (like debian or GRML) which don't impose >> > pulseaudio on you (GRML might be of particular interest as that has >> > speakup and software speech output already configured). >> > >> > One final comment is that you asked whether the entire system will be >> > accessible, this depends what you mean. Using software speech means you >> > will not be able to gain any speech output until the audio system is >> > running properly, on a correctly configured system getting to a point >> > where software speech output can run should not be a problem, but if >> > you >> > are the sort wanting to compile custom kernels then you might get >> > earlier problems. Like wise on the shutdown process you will only keep >> > speech output until the connector software is killed. Again no real >> > problems should occur after that on a properly configured system, but >> > rare things might happen particularly if you fiddle with some of the >> > core components and make a mistake. So basically if you aren't going to >> > mess with things like the kernel you should have access to all you need >> > access to, but if you are going to delve into things like compiling >> > custom kernels you may get problems outside where software speech can >> > run. >> > >> > Michael Whapples >> > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:27 +0000, James & Nash wrote: >> >> Hello. My name is James and I have just joined ths list. I hope I will >> >> learn >> >> a lot and hopefully contribute in time. >> >> >> >> Am I correct in thinking that there is a software synthesizer for >> >> Speak >> >> UP >> >> and that you can have both Speak Up and Orca running on the same >> >> system? >> >> If >> >> so, how would I go about installing Speak Up in Ubuntu and does this >> >> mean >> >> that I could have speech at start up and in every part of Linux with >> >> both >> >> Screen Readers? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> James >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
