Thank you Michael, you've been very helpful.Nice to see you on this list as well as the Orca list. Take care james ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Hello and qeustion about SpeakUp > Hello, > You are correct about the software speech output for speakup, it depends > on which synthesiser you want to use as to what software you will need > to get it. If you want to use espeak, then use the espeakup software. If > you have IBMtts (viavoice) then there is a speakup connector for it at > the ttsynth website. If you want to use another synthesiser supported by > speech-dispatcher then you will need speech-dispatcher and speechd-up. > My experience is that you can use any of the above solutions and still > run orca without problems in the graphical console (at the moment I am > using espeak as the synth and espeakup to connect speakup to it and > gnome-speech for connecting orca to espeak). > > As for adding speakup to ubuntu, if the kernel version is 2.6.26 or > higher (use uname -r to get this information) then you can build speakup > as modules. I am not quite sure which ubuntu packages you need to have > installed to be able to compile modules hopefully either someone else > will say or may be you know. You will then need to get speakup from git > or some recent copy of speakup (slackware has some snapshots of the git > repository on their ftp server > ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/source/k/). > Hopefully in that there will be sufficient information to tell you how > to perform the actual compilation of speakup as modules and how to > install it. > > Sorry I can't be more detailed about how to install speakup on ubuntu, > this is partly because I don't use ubuntu and I am so used to compiling > speakup into the actual kernel rather than compiling it as modules. > > There are some additional things to consider. Ubuntu uses pulseaudio. I > feel ubuntu deals with pulseaudio in the wrong manner, sound is a system > resource and if pulseaudio is meant to be the way to access audio > devices then it should be treated as a system service, they seem to > think it is a gnome service. The short of this is that whatever output > software you choose for speakup will have to deal with pulseaudio > running when you have a gnome session running and also cope with > pulseaudio not running when there is no active gnome-session. You may > (if you haven't) want to look at removing pulseaudio. You may want to > look at other distros (like debian or GRML) which don't impose > pulseaudio on you (GRML might be of particular interest as that has > speakup and software speech output already configured). > > One final comment is that you asked whether the entire system will be > accessible, this depends what you mean. Using software speech means you > will not be able to gain any speech output until the audio system is > running properly, on a correctly configured system getting to a point > where software speech output can run should not be a problem, but if you > are the sort wanting to compile custom kernels then you might get > earlier problems. Like wise on the shutdown process you will only keep > speech output until the connector software is killed. Again no real > problems should occur after that on a properly configured system, but > rare things might happen particularly if you fiddle with some of the > core components and make a mistake. So basically if you aren't going to > mess with things like the kernel you should have access to all you need > access to, but if you are going to delve into things like compiling > custom kernels you may get problems outside where software speech can > run. > > Michael Whapples > On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 08:27 +0000, James & Nash wrote: >> Hello. My name is James and I have just joined ths list. I hope I will >> learn >> a lot and hopefully contribute in time. >> >> Am I correct in thinking that there is a software synthesizer for Speak >> UP >> and that you can have both Speak Up and Orca running on the same system? >> If >> so, how would I go about installing Speak Up in Ubuntu and does this mean >> that I could have speech at start up and in every part of Linux with both >> Screen Readers? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
