the key word here is write, not burn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody" <churst35@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? > as said by tyler: >>>>>>> Is it possible for me somehow to take an iso and write it to a USB >>>>>>> key > > You cannot write an iso to a USB key, you can manually extract the files > and copy them to the disk barring the disk is formatted properly and the > bios supports it. ISO burning programs do not burn to thumb drives only > opticle drives. Either you stated this wrong you you thought you could > burn said images to a thumb drive without any issues. I'm assuming you are > using xp for this. > > Did I make myself clear? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? > > >> wo, when did I say I wanted to burn an iso to a USB? I was born at night, >> but not last night. I just wanted to get the iso on to the USB somehow. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cody" <churst35 at verizon.net> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:27 PM >> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >> >> >>> Yes, this is the same thing I've said twice, iso burning apps do not >>> burn to thumb drives only opticle drives. This is what tyler wanted to >>> do and am pointing out that this cannot be done. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net> >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>> >>> >>>> Now i'm really confused. You don't burn an iso to a thumb drive, as a >>>> thumb drive is a USB storage device not a cdrom/dvdrom style device. >>>> >>>> If you want the files off the .iso onto the thumb drive, you'd have to >>>> loop mount the iso under linux and copy them off, or copy them off >>>> under Windows with daemon tools, virtual drive, power iso etc etc etc. >>>> >>>> Many installers just let you put the .iso onto the thumb drive along >>>> with the boot loader and initial ram disk. >>>> there are automated scripts and programs on www.pendrivelinux.com that >>>> given the correct Linux Iso give you a bootable installer flash drive. >>>> This hides the complexity from the user. >>>> >>>> Of course if you are building these drives from the command-line, you >>>> either follow a guide or use a script. >>>> >>>> Regards, Kerry. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Cody" <churst35 at verizon.net> >>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:04 PM >>>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>>> >>>> >>>>> My point wasn't to place the iso on the drive itself but format the >>>>> drive, then manually extract the files fromt he iso. I don't think any >>>>> iso program such as burn cdcc will see a thumb drive as a burnable >>>>> device. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net> >>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:20 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Many installers do loop mount an iso off the thumb drive and are >>>>>> configured to do so. Debian's installer can do that, as can Ubuntu's. >>>>>> >>>>>> They expect to load the kernel and initial ram disk, and then find >>>>>> the rest of the installer after that. >>>>>> Usually the kernel is loaded by a boot loader such as syslinux, grub >>>>>> lilo or similar. The boot loader also has to understand and load an >>>>>> initial ramdisk, then once that is all set the installer finds >>>>>> components from there. >>>>>> It can pick the files directly up off the thumb drive, however >>>>>> depending what file system you have on the drive depends whether >>>>>> Linux or the Bios can recognize it. >>>>>> Whatever file system you use needs to be supported by Linux and >>>>>> preferably support long file names unless you use the .iso file and >>>>>> the installer loop mounts it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Many bioses won't boot a USB drive unless it contains a FAT file >>>>>> system either in floppy mode, (no partition table) >>>>>> or on a primary fat partition complete with boot sector and partition >>>>>> table. >>>>>> This is the difference between booting USB floppy, and USB HDD >>>>>> support. >>>>>> If booting from an USB CDROM it's an eltorato boot and different >>>>>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Cody" <churst35 at verizon.net> >>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why burn the iso? just extract the files from the iso and then copy >>>>>>> them onto the drive and boot with it. an iso program is not going to >>>>>>> pick up a USB thumb drive because it is looking for a opticle >>>>>>> drive/that is what those apps are designed to burn on. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com> >>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:36 AM >>>>>>> Subject: installing linux from USB? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> Is it possible for me somehow to take an iso and write it to a USB >>>>>>>> key so I can install debian like that? the computer I want deb on >>>>>>>> has a messed up cd drive. >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup