wo, when did I say I wanted to burn an iso to a USB? I was born at night, but not last night. I just wanted to get the iso on to the USB somehow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody" <churst35@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? > Yes, this is the same thing I've said twice, iso burning apps do not burn > to thumb drives only opticle drives. This is what tyler wanted to do and > am pointing out that this cannot be done. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? > > >> Now i'm really confused. You don't burn an iso to a thumb drive, as a >> thumb drive is a USB storage device not a cdrom/dvdrom style device. >> >> If you want the files off the .iso onto the thumb drive, you'd have to >> loop mount the iso under linux and copy them off, or copy them off under >> Windows with daemon tools, virtual drive, power iso etc etc etc. >> >> Many installers just let you put the .iso onto the thumb drive along with >> the boot loader and initial ram disk. >> there are automated scripts and programs on www.pendrivelinux.com that >> given the correct Linux Iso give you a bootable installer flash drive. >> This hides the complexity from the user. >> >> Of course if you are building these drives from the command-line, you >> either follow a guide or use a script. >> >> Regards, Kerry. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cody" <churst35 at verizon.net> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:04 PM >> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >> >> >>> My point wasn't to place the iso on the drive itself but format the >>> drive, then manually extract the files fromt he iso. I don't think any >>> iso program such as burn cdcc will see a thumb drive as a burnable >>> device. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net> >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>> >>> >>>> Many installers do loop mount an iso off the thumb drive and are >>>> configured to do so. Debian's installer can do that, as can Ubuntu's. >>>> >>>> They expect to load the kernel and initial ram disk, and then find the >>>> rest of the installer after that. >>>> Usually the kernel is loaded by a boot loader such as syslinux, grub >>>> lilo or similar. The boot loader also has to understand and load an >>>> initial ramdisk, then once that is all set the installer finds >>>> components from there. >>>> It can pick the files directly up off the thumb drive, however >>>> depending what file system you have on the drive depends whether Linux >>>> or the Bios can recognize it. >>>> Whatever file system you use needs to be supported by Linux and >>>> preferably support long file names unless you use the .iso file and the >>>> installer loop mounts it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Many bioses won't boot a USB drive unless it contains a FAT file system >>>> either in floppy mode, (no partition table) >>>> or on a primary fat partition complete with boot sector and partition >>>> table. >>>> This is the difference between booting USB floppy, and USB HDD support. >>>> If booting from an USB CDROM it's an eltorato boot and different again. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Cody" <churst35 at verizon.net> >>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:24 PM >>>> Subject: Re: installing linux from USB? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Why burn the iso? just extract the files from the iso and then copy >>>>> them onto the drive and boot with it. an iso program is not going to >>>>> pick up a USB thumb drive because it is looking for a opticle >>>>> drive/that is what those apps are designed to burn on. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com> >>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:36 AM >>>>> Subject: installing linux from USB? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> Is it possible for me somehow to take an iso and write it to a USB >>>>>> key so I can install debian like that? the computer I want deb on has >>>>>> a messed up cd drive. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup