I've had the speech output problem you describe through several versions of Fedora, and also a time or two, I think, after installing Debian via the mini-beep.iso. Very lately, I've avoided rebooting by hitting the key that kills and revives Speakup. I typically had to hit it a few times, and finally Speakup would say "I'm alive." I then quickly decrease and increase the speech rate and volume, and things seem as before. I realize that ain't no real fix, and I know nothing about how to do a real fix. I also realize you may have tried that and it failed, but thought it worth suggesting anyway. Al -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Chuck Hallenbeck Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:14 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Latest Lenny kernel and ltlk module crash my system Hi, A week ago Michael reported a problem after upgrading his Debian system to kernel 2.6.26-1 with the associated speakup modules. His ltlk could not handle lengthy outputs, and locked up his system completely. I had just experienced an identical problem with an identical configuration, and was hoping for a solution. My system worked reliably with the soft driver using espeakup and espeak in the meantime. Both Michael and I were working from a fresh Lenny install from Samuel's mini-beep iso, I believe. We began with the 2.6.25-2 kernel and modules available on installation, and the crashes only began when upgrading to 2.6.26. A day or two ago an upgrade appeared for the 2.6.26-1 kernel, but not for the modules. Both Michael and I installed the upgrade. He reports that for him the upgrade solved his ltlk crashing. However, for me it did not. So I am once again using software speech hoping that a fix may appear. Here is a reliable way to crash my system with the currently available Debian packages for kernel 2.6.26-1 and the speakup 2.6.26 modules: My console is set to 48 lines of 128 characters with the boot parameter vga=791 My email client, mutt, has a folder containing about 60 messages. When I open that folder with mutt, the screen fills with the index of messages, and my ltlk begins to read the entire screen starting at the top. I try to silence the speech with the numpad enter key, but there is no response. Reading continues. In fact my keyboard seems unresponsive. Cannot change consoles, exit mutt, stop the speech. In desperation I issue the three-finger-salute (ctrl-alt-delete) expecting it too to fail, but it worked. I brought the system down that way. After rebooting I reverted once again to software speech. I am most anxious to simplify my maintenance requirements here, and was hoping to be able to rely on the newly available Debian packages which seemed to offer such promise. Are there others who are using this configuration with success? i.e., the Debian kernel and speakup modules for 2.6.26 with the doubletalk LT (the ltlk) driver? If so, and your system can survive a lengthy text stream sent to your synth, then perhaps my problem is the synth itself rather than the supporting software. Fortunately my software speech setup is robust and responsive. Discouraged, Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (29% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- Exhilaration is that feeling you get just after a great idea hits you, and just before you realize what is wrong with it. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/696 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 12:00 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/696 - Release Date: 9/3/2008 12:00 AM