Hello list, thanks for the info on killall, pkill did the trick. Apparently it was renamed. I'm trying to set up a script that will tar a file, encrypt it with ccrypt -K pass -e file.tar.gz, and send it via ftp to a server so it can be stored. I've got the tarring done, though for some reason it's preserving the whole directory structure and puts the file under home/vertigo/moo/db.db rather than just untarring db.db I'm at a loss, as to how to make it preserve the date through backup though. This is my current script: tar -zcvf ~/backups/`date '+%m-%d-%Y_%H'`.tar.gz ~/moo/db.db Because it's storing the time, I need a way to keep the filename in tact when I ccrypt it, and then ftp it. I'm able to ccrypt, but I am looking for solutions on sending it via ftp, ideas would be welcome there. I just almost lost a whole db, which is the code for my mud that I"ve been working on the past two months, and it would've cost me a ton of time wasted, so I'm taking extra precautions. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield Visit tds for quality software and web design: http://tysdomain.com skype: st8amnd127 aim: st8amnd2005 msn: tyler at tysdomain.com