Hello all, This is a rather long note. I am answering the questions that Luke and Tony asked and restating my situation in obnoxious detail. I have successfully installed both CD's, first, the alternate, then the live CD on a desktop computer. I used the same steps to download both images. I started at the ubuntu web site, www.ubuntu.com, found a location to download from, downloaded the .iso images, created the CD's under windows xp using cdrwin to write an iso image to CD. The alternate worked properly but my wife had to read everything. The alternate CD gave me an option to install a text only version. That worked but with no speech. I could type any commands and run any scripts. Then I tried the live CD using the first option at the boot prompt to run it before I installed it. This worked. Then I decided to install it using the second option at the boot prompt. I used the exact procedure that Tony described. Orca worked well enough for me but it did not give me access to some of the more exotic things on the system menu. I could enter the required password and then nothing would happen. I also did not see a way to get to a shell to type my own commands. I also have a dectalk express connected to the only com port this computer has. Would it be possible to get orca to use it? In reading between the lines, do I infer correctly that for now, I will not be able to have speech, even if I do manage to get to a place where I can type commands? Would it be enough to find a way to install another kernel with speakup already installed in it? If so, how would one do that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony seth" <lp800@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:03 AM Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces > Hi all... For what it's worth, I've gotten the 8.4 release to work on one > computer, but not the other. The way I did it was first, when the cd > starts spinning, the first thing that comes up is a language dialog, for > which English is the default, just hit enter there, it spins a bit more, > then hit down arrow once, for the install, from there do the f5 3 enter > enter and it should work, but on one of my computers the eee pc to be > exact, it dies right after the second enter, but on my desktop it works > just fine... > I'll be tickled if they include speakup eventually, which I guess they > will since it appearently will be in the latest Debian... so there it > is... > Hth. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3499 (20081007) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >