Hi all... For what it's worth, I've gotten the 8.4 release to work on one computer, but not the other. The way I did it was first, when the cd starts spinning, the first thing that comes up is a language dialog, for which English is the default, just hit enter there, it spins a bit more, then hit down arrow once, for the install, from there do the f5 3 enter enter and it should work, but on one of my computers the eee pc to be exact, it dies right after the second enter, but on my desktop it works just fine... I'll be tickled if they include speakup eventually, which I guess they will since it appearently will be in the latest Debian... so there it is... Hth. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.