Not all ISPs block port 25 in Canada. There are many good providers which allow their clients to manage their own services. Execulink is one of them which I have two accounts with. I'm not sure who in the Toronto area provide such services but I'm sure there are some. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061