Tony Baechler, le Thu 17 Jul 2008 02:41:58 -0700, a ?crit : > Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Tony Baechler, le Tue 15 Jul 2008 03:36:50 -0700, a ?crit : > > > >>Well, the obvious thing that's missing is an already compiled kernel > >>image which includes Speakup. Unless I'm mistaken, the Speakup modules > >>package is just source. > > > >Please see http://packages.qa.debian.org/linux-modules-extra-2.6 > > > I'm sorry, I didn't know about that and I didn't see it announced on > debian-accessibility. Right, I should probably have announced it, I just didn't take the time to do it. > Still, I think that's modules, not an actual kernel image with the > Speakup core built-in. Indeed. The reason is that debian kernel packagers don't want to apply patches to the kernel except bug fixes. Having it as modules is fine for most usage, though, and people who need non-module are probably able to patch/recompile their own kernel. One could argue that the speakup package could provide an easy way to do it (just like the old speakup-patch package used to). Just another thing to do on top of the long list... > >Etch _does_ have braille already. > > > Again, I'm sorry. I don't use Braille and I thought Braille was somehow > dropped for Etch. Why so? > Maybe I was confused with Sarge which had Speakup support. Well, there were "accessibility" disks indeed, but that wasn't convenient. > I read the Etch release notes and don't remember seeing a > section on Braille in the installer, So the release team forgot to add it. That's the kind of things that people can (without technical knowledge) and should help in debian-accessibility. > >As for Lenny, I've put a preview mini-ISO of what the installer will be > >on > > > >http://brl.thefreecat.org/mini.iso > > > > > Thank you! This would be very good to have. I intend to download it > and use it the next time I do an install. Well, just a warning: this image may not work any more at that time if the archive change :) (it seems to do work currently). > >Just contribute. > I'm not a programmer See the documentation issue above. > I don't really have time to write docs But you have time to write complains and spread FUDs :) > and wouldn't understand the code anyway. Documentation is _not_ about code. It's about user knowledge. > I am very disappointed that the install team dropped the ball with > Etch as far as Speakup, Well, as usual, it's not a problem of policy, it's a problem of workforce. The accessibility disks got dropped because they weren't maintained, and the debian installer doesn't fit on them any more anyway. Debian-installer people are not against accessibility (yes, that's what people would understand from your "dropped the ball" expression), they just don't know how to test it etc. so can not maintain it themselves, they need help. Samuel
