It'd be good if people actually checked what is true before speaking :) Tony Baechler, le Tue 15 Jul 2008 03:36:50 -0700, a ?crit : > Well, the obvious thing that's missing is an already compiled kernel image > which includes Speakup. Unless I'm mistaken, the Speakup modules package > is just source. Please see http://packages.qa.debian.org/linux-modules-extra-2.6 > One thing Daniel didn't mention is that the Lenny installer should > have accessible images with Braille and Speakup support, which Etch > will never officially have. ?!?! Etch _does_ have braille already. As for Lenny, I've put a preview mini-ISO of what the installer will be on http://brl.thefreecat.org/mini.iso Let the CD boot; when it has spun down, press the tab key and then speakup.synth=yourdriver enter, and voil?. The Debian FTP archive may not be up to date so that the speakup modules may not be installed on the target before the reboot, but everything is there for this to happen when that new version of the installer is officially released. > I think that Debian is officially supporting the blind, just not as fast > as one would like or in the manner that Michael seems to think is > necessary. Just contribute. I'm desperate to hear people talking on the debian-accessibility lists. I sometimes raise issues there, and very few people answer. I on the other hand often hear about debian accessibility the kind of complaints you've just made. That doesn't help to find the will to work on it, you know... > I would like to have a talking system from installation to > first boot to shutdown but that's not completely possible anyway because > of the BIOS limitations and because software speech can't start until > later in the boot process. Speech is inherently more difficult than writing on video memory indeed, but not impossible. About BIOS limitations, google for EFI, tiano core, etc. There should be a way to have accessibility modules early in the EFI boot process. Samuel