Samuel Thibault wrote: > It'd be good if people actually checked what is true before speaking :) > > Tony Baechler, le Tue 15 Jul 2008 03:36:50 -0700, a ?crit : > >> Well, the obvious thing that's missing is an already compiled kernel image >> which includes Speakup. Unless I'm mistaken, the Speakup modules package >> is just source. >> > > Please see http://packages.qa.debian.org/linux-modules-extra-2.6 > > Hi, I'm sorry, I didn't know about that and I didn't see it announced on debian-accessibility. Still, I think that's modules, not an actual kernel image with the Speakup core built-in. I will look before saying more though. >> One thing Daniel didn't mention is that the Lenny installer should >> have accessible images with Braille and Speakup support, which Etch >> will never officially have. >> > > ?!?! > > Etch _does_ have braille already. > > Again, I'm sorry. I don't use Braille and I thought Braille was somehow dropped for Etch. Maybe I was confused with Sarge which had Speakup support. I read the Etch release notes and don't remember seeing a section on Braille in the installer, but again I don't use Braille. > As for Lenny, I've put a preview mini-ISO of what the installer will be > on > > http://brl.thefreecat.org/mini.iso > > Thank you! This would be very good to have. I intend to download it and use it the next time I do an install. >> I think that Debian is officially supporting the blind, just not as fast >> as one would like or in the manner that Michael seems to think is >> necessary. >> > > Just contribute. > > I'm not a programmer and I still don't use Debian as my main OS. I don't really have time to write docs and wouldn't understand the code anyway. With that said, I have an idea which I'm thinking about but it would have more to do with Speakup itself than Debian. > I'm desperate to hear people talking on the debian-accessibility lists. > I sometimes raise issues there, and very few people answer. I on the > other hand often hear about debian accessibility the kind of complaints > you've just made. That doesn't help to find the will to work on it, you > know... > > I was not complaining about Debian accessibility. Michael was complaining and I was responding to him and Daniel. I'm personally very happy with Debian, more than any other Linux distro. I would like to see FreeBSD support accessibility, but they have nothing while Debian can be used successfully by the blind from installation to day to day tasks including using X and Orca. I understand that Gentoo and Slackware might have "better" accessibility support, better being of course highly subjective, but I'm still staying with Debian because it is a "better" overall distro. The only thing I don't like is their guidelines for determining free software, but that's a discussion for a different time. I'm sorry if I came across like I was complaining. I am very disappointed that the install team dropped the ball with Etch as far as Speakup, but I think Lenny will be better and will be worth the wait. I have a lot of respect for you and the work you've done.
