Just wanted to thank whom ever it was who mentioned "screen" recently. As I still use a serial terminal on fedora on one of my boxes it's just what I need. With so many packages on the system, it seems nearly impossible to know wether the process you think you need is there or how to find it. Even the article I found that told me how to setup the entry in inittab for the serial terminal didn't mention screen as a usefull assett. Thanks anyhow, sorry I don't remember who mentioned it. tom Fowle