OK, so I tried the latest speakup git with kernel 2.6.25 gentoo sources and the following happened: I had speakout module built in and soft and dectalk express as modules. Now the first time I booted, I let it talk without pressing any keys and it eventually hung somewhere, i.e. lost speech and the system was dead or crashed. Then I rebooted and for quite a while -- unlike my present kernel which is 2.6.24-gentoo-r5 and a speakup git of about 2 month ago -- I could get no keyboard access for some time, although it did eventually appear. Then the system came up normally, except that I had an app which could not initialize a modem successfully for some reason, so I went back to the former kernel and speakup. The app is called bbbs which I use to control modem events. I suppose I could use cron, but this is much more convenient. Any thoughts? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com