On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 09:43:25PM -0800, Hurst, Cody wrote: > Anything without an Nvidia video card should do what you are looking for. > Not an hp because that is what I have and ubuntu never booted and installed Thanks, Cody. Kinda sounds like my ATI All-In-Wonder card in my last system. Used the VESA driver to get it to work, and could never get the bttv system running. Since my last email, I've been checking out a Dell Inspiron that's being sold for $600 with Ubuntoo pre-installed. I can see that it's a Core-2 Duo, and has an 80G hard drive, and that's about it until I can call their 800 number and find out more. The details page on the thing wasn't coming up. I wouldn't know a line across the screen if it came up and slapped me in the face, so...anyway, if X11 starts, it won't matter if the screen displays anything. <grins> I've been hearing abourt NVidia cards. Thanks for the additional reminder. I may just break down and get the dell if it has a serial port. Thank you for the info, Michael