I started with Emacs, but mostly use vi--or, more precisely, vim. You can screw yourself royally if you forget what mode you're in. Also, I've found that, unlike with Emacs, I don't hear what I'm backspacing over. Those are the drawbacks I live with regularly. As long as I remember what mode I'm in, though, I find it much easier to move around a document in vim than in Emacs, easier to copy and paste blocks of text, and much easier to change the settings that kick in when I start it. (I still don't know how to set autofill on or the line length to wrap at permanently in Emacs: it's doubtless somewhere in the manual, but sure not easy to find.) Also, I find the Emacs keystrokes often a nuisance, especially especially because there's only one working alt key, which apparently is a Linux thing. You may of course know all this and have decided against vim. I mention these things only in case they may be new food for thought. I avoided vim until I took a class in which some of its useful features were pointed out to us. I was grateful. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: editors > Hello, > I am currently looking for a better editor than my current favourite > (nano). I have just been doing some bash scripting training, and in that > they were teaching using vi (the training was for people who may never > have used unix before), but I have to say I just wasn't getting on with > vi. How does speakup work with vi best? I found it not very good. People > were saying to me that nano isn't so powerful (and I know what they are > getting at), so I am thinking about emacs (or emacspeak). It seems more > to my liking than vi, but I have a few questions about it. If I were to > use emacspeak, how is it best to stop conflicts of speakup and emacspeak > wanting to use the same synth (an apollo in my case)? Or is it good to > use emacs with speakup (so doing away with emacspeak? Or alternatively, > is there any other editors people might suggest. > > From > Michael Whapples > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 10:06 AM > >