In the console running X (usually TTY7), just press the printscreen key. That will shut off Speakup for only that console and you're good to go. You can then have the other consoles talking with no problems. The only side effect is that you'll have to cancel the screen capture dialog, so don't do this until after Orca is running :) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: buddy at brannan.name or phone 888-75-BUDDY Get a free online mall and earn on 1000 stores: http://www.powermall.us >From Kitchen Disaster to Culinary Master, make meals and baking easier and faster: http://www.tastyshop.net