Hi So, maybe I should care a bit more for personal feelings over principles? Certainly, that's a reasonable view, and I think it's what you're saying to me. I don't know that I agree, but I will consider it. GJ: Yes, I guess so. PS: Do you really think someone completely new to Linux would write anything so categorical to the list? Isn't it far more likely from someone with history and standing in the community who's likely to confuse what they know with what they think they know? I have been guilty of this. I'm working on it. I hope to get better, but I suspect I'll always be working on it no matter how good my skill gets. GJ: I do really think that new users are just as likely to be clumsy with their language. Especially, when it's across boarders. I'm increasingly finding it difficult to understand some of the Americanisms for example. You used privately, "headsup", I also heard it on Chess Griffin's Linux Reality pod cast. I'd never heard that one before but by guessing I hope my understanding is correct. You'll also made the comment that I'd been using Fedora for a few days, while this is so untrue, the point is your suggesting that someone who has little experience shouldn't communicate. Anyway, let's both continue to support the operating system to the best of our abilities, as that's what we're here for. Hey pass us that glass of Moonshine <smiles> Cheers Gena Janina Georgina Joyce writes: > Hi > > You know I've been around the block a few times. My concern is how welcome new users will feel about asking their questions. If they get a flaming like that they'll look else where. > > My personal feeling is that you should have expressed yourself as you did if that's how you felt, but privately and I could have corrected my error publicly. Come on! Your far more skilled in public relations than I am. > > We both want people to use Linux, isn't that what it's all about? > > Regards > > Gena > > Amateur Call: M 0 E B P > > VOIP / IM: gena1959uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:17 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca > > > I meant nothing personal, I assure you. Yes, I have a short fuse on > anything approaching categorical statements whenever someone is new in > a particular domain. Sorry if I offended. I certainly didn't intend > that. > > Janina > > > Georgina Joyce writes: > > Hi > > > > My apologies, I didn't expand upon my expression. Because if I'd added "by default" I'd be perfectly correct. > > > > I dislike your tone and your approach upon this matter. Whereas, I've been privately supportive, but no more! > > > > Gena > > > > Amateur Call: M 0 E B P > > > > VOIP / IM: gena1959uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:58 PM > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca > > > > > > Georgina Joyce writes: > > > It appears that Fedora doesn't include espeak > > > > > > Not true. Did you even try to do: > > > > yum install espeak? > > > > Or yum info espeak? > > > > Please don't spread "does" and "doesn't" around with only a few days > > experience. Too much misinformation is spread this way. > > > > Janina > > > >