Well, I don't know about skills in this context, but I do know you're correct about alternative scenarios. You and I have been writing on and off list these last days, just to throw out another one. Had you sent me those exact words privately, I expect I'd have responded very differently. For me it really is the categorical statement in public that trips my ire. I'm sorry it landed on you, but you weren't the only audience for my remark. It is a public list, after all, and this isn't the first time I've come down hard on wrong categorical statements. Nor is it likely the last time. So, maybe I should care a bit more for personal feelings over principles? Certainly, that's a reasonable view, and I think it's what you're saying to me. I don't know that I agree, but I will consider it. PS: Do you really think someone completely new to Linux would write anything so categorical to the list? Isn't it far more likely from someone with history and standing in the community who's likely to confuse what they know with what they think they know? I have been guilty of this. I'm working on it. I hope to get better, but I suspect I'll always be working on it no matter how good my skill gets. Janina Georgina Joyce writes: > Hi > > You know I've been around the block a few times. My concern is how welcome new users will feel about asking their questions. If they get a flaming like that they'll look else where. > > My personal feeling is that you should have expressed yourself as you did if that's how you felt, but privately and I could have corrected my error publicly. Come on! Your far more skilled in public relations than I am. > > We both want people to use Linux, isn't that what it's all about? > > Regards > > Gena > > Amateur Call: M 0 E B P > > VOIP / IM: gena1959uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:17 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca > > > I meant nothing personal, I assure you. Yes, I have a short fuse on > anything approaching categorical statements whenever someone is new in > a particular domain. Sorry if I offended. I certainly didn't intend > that. > > Janina > > > Georgina Joyce writes: > > Hi > > > > My apologies, I didn't expand upon my expression. Because if I'd added "by default" I'd be perfectly correct. > > > > I dislike your tone and your approach upon this matter. Whereas, I've been privately supportive, but no more! > > > > Gena > > > > Amateur Call: M 0 E B P > > > > VOIP / IM: gena1959uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:58 PM > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca > > > > > > Georgina Joyce writes: > > > It appears that Fedora doesn't include espeak > > > > > > Not true. Did you even try to do: > > > > yum install espeak? > > > > Or yum info espeak? > > > > Please don't spread "does" and "doesn't" around with only a few days > > experience. Too much misinformation is spread this way. > > > > Janina > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > __________ NOD32 2403 (20070717) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina at a11y.org > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com > > Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada > Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com > > Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org > Linux Foundation http://a11y.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 2404 (20070717) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina at a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina at a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org
