We could argue this till the cows come home but personally I think jaws is more popular because it has context sensitive help; tutorial messages; documentation in windows help format; custom prompts per application and the ability to hit insert h or insert f1 quickly to get application specific help. the training material is also in daisy format; reads well and is easy enough to navigate. Perhaps it's what you are used to but when learning Windoweyes I found that the documentation was mountainous; the bloke douing the tutorial had an annoying lispy voice and that it took ages for you to learn the things you needed to be productive. this of course is said with the understanding that I use Jaws as my primary screen reader and it's what i'm used to. Of course learning a new interface is a hard slog; and I haven't invested a lot of time in it. I'd rather use voiceover and saphari than Windoweyes on the internet; since I don't enjoy Windoweyes's internet support especially on pages with javascript. Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Ervin" <GlennErvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Speakup's future > Not that it is like Jaws, but I have used many screen-readers in my 20 > years > with computers, and the keyboard mapping that JFW uses is, in my opinion, > the most intuitive. > I think that is why JFW stayed so popular, as it got off "in the lead" > because of its keyboard layout, not because of its stability, which has > not > been one of its strengths. > Glenn >