-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have to second this. While we're discussing speakup keyboard layouts matching windows screen readers, why should we limit the proposals to layouts for jfw only? Why not also implement layouts for wineyes/hal/system access/whatever else is out there? As for the statement that a jfw keymap would translate into more people using speakup, I don't follow here. While I myself have never used jfw, I realize that a large group of people is using it out there when it comes to windows access. Even so, we need to remember that speakup provides access to a gnu/linux console, which is as different from jfw/windows, as an airplane is from a bike. Simply having a jfw keyboard layout isn't going to motivate more people to drop the windows gui in favor of the gnu/linux console. The only thing that will provide such motivation is the desire to become less dependent on/independent of M$ and the AT companies. In that case, learning a new screen reader keyboard layout is going to be no sweat, compared to learning a new screen reader in terms of the functionality it provides, and a new os. Just my $0.01 worth. Greg On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 04:17:10PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > I think compatibility with latest kernels and more mainstreaming is > far more important than JFW keyboard look-alikes. The world does > *NOT* revolve around Jaws! > - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHeD5t7s9z/XlyUyARAtnRAJ4hS9ek3VFcVkuzmSJoRcclHQYXigCfYl3u AihD82zqqBZWhRQg1HyU2pw= =QpPn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----