Doug, You should probably give the ubuntu live cd a try before attempting to install it on a hard drive. Check out: live.gnome.org/Orca to get the scoop on how to obtain the ubuntu live cd. Gnome accessibility has been in the works for several years, and much has been accomlished in terms of the underlying archetecture. However, in my opinion the end user experience is still far short of MS windows with a screen reader or the linux console apps. On the other hand, the Orca team at Sun Microsystems has been working hard to improve accessibility and the product is more stable than in the past. My major complaint is poor responsiveness. When I'm using speakup, I get almost immediate feedback to keystrokes and commands. I can't say the same about orca. But, I urge you to try it out and make suggestions to the Orca team. Chris