Good going. The more you can do without sighted help, the better. I have to bust all my computing problems without sighted help, which I do not have the luxury of anyway. My wife, though sighted, knows nothing about computers and, showing her the messages or whatever, would do no more than get her confused. Well, I just got the start of one going the other day. I have decided to give gnome and orca a try. I may or may not regret this. I would like to get some results from others on how you are doing with this combination. I would like to see what's going on. If you are having good or bad results with speech-enabled Linux gui interfaces, please let me know so that I will know what to look forward to. Thanks -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST