Hi, Karl's website is www.eklhad.net I'm not sure I'd say that it's difficult to use. It takes some adjusting to but I managed to get used to it pretty quickly, especially if you read the relevant sections of the documentation. I don't use it to anything like it's full capabilities though. I agree that something needs to be done to get more textbased browsers to handle javascript. A lotof the sites I use have a high content of javascript, and so for the moment I do most of my internet browsing in windows. as I'm trying to get more over to linux, I will have to experiment with Orca using firefox, but I'm told it's not particularly good yet. hth, Robin Williams New website under construction: www.robin-williams.co.uk Mobile: 07883017949 Personal email: robin at robin-williams.co.uk University business email: rmw205 at ex.ac.uk MSN: robster3 at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hart Larry" <chime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Www browser > Well, Karen, edbrowse may be the only linux browser actively handling > javascript, but edbrowse is not simple like lynx. Edbrowse was created by > Karl, who also created the Jupiter speech system--and there is a yahoo > group > called commandline where he actively interacts with users. > God, each week more-and-more sites are ruining really nice access with > javascript. Latest example is a newspaper, International Herald Tribune > www.iht.com > Any of the printer friendly or e-mail links from stories now won't work. > While > I still write sites, explaining that these kind of changes are leaving out > text > users, I have yet to have any success in rolling back the tide. > Hart > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >