My opinion is that this discussion belongs on the VoiceOver list, not here. At 01:57 PM 3/30/2006, W. Nick Dotson wrote: >What sound editing. ProTools isn't as yet accessible with Tiger, and who >wants to run OS9 and OutSpoken? Again, >programs are only as accessible on a Mac as programmers choose to make >them by adhering to the strictly volunteery >standards which make applications accessible to the not-Screen Reader. > >Nick > >On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:39:04 -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: > > What are you talking about? > I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, cd/ > dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to > some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% > accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast > creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's > probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it. > Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's > always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, > though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry > about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine. > Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video > described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD > player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers > working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the > apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ > better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store, > sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not > usable. I think you might be surprised at how much you can do with it. > On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Ann K. Parsons wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Interesting point of view. Not sure it's accurate, but definitely > > interesting. <smiling> It may even work, if, I say if, the > > mainstream market can be persuaded that it is just what is needed. > > Somebody in this discussion used the illustration of the typewriter. > > Good choice, why, because that device was, in the 1880s designed > > specifically *for* a blind person so that person could write more > > effectively. > > > > You may want to be careful when talking about Apple's screen reader. > > I have heard that it is good, but it doesn't give sull access yet. > > Perhaps there have been improvements? > > > > Ann P. > > > > -- > > Ann K. Parsons > > email: akp at eznet.net > > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > > Skype: Putertutor > > "All that is gold does not glitter. > > Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
