Adam, This morning a second similar problem arose with another file in the same directory. I do a nearly complete backup of one HD to another every morning using rsync, and those errors only began on Saturday with the one I reported yesterday, and now today with a second one. No other such error messages in /var/log/messages. I am using a system security checker called tiger, and the directory where the errors are occurring is /var/log/tiger. I am wondering if I have a problem with the security checker. I would be interested if another error occurs in a different directory, that would be informative. I can't completely uninstall tiger since that directory, /var/log/tiger, now contains two files that cannot be accessed, effectively locking the directory. But I could move the entire /var tree, or maybe just the /var/log/tiger branch of it, to another partition temporarily to see what happens. The problem files would stay behind, but they are only of historic interest, and not critical. One other peculiarity. When I cd to the /var/log/tiger directory and do an ls with the output redirected to a file, the errors are not shown. Only when I do ls with the name of the given files. The names can be only partially entered and tab completion finds them okay, but if I just do for instance: ls > /root/ls.out the resulting file contains no error messages, and none appear when the command is run. Curios. On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:35:45PM -0600, Adam Myrow wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > hhs48:/var/log/tiger# ls check_rootkit.out.8 > > ls: check_rootkit.out.8: Permission denied > > hhs48:/var/log/tiger# lsattr check_rootkit.out.8 > > lsattr: Permission denied while trying to stat check_rootkit.out.8 > > hhs48:/var/log/tiger# rm -f check_rootkit.out.8 > > rm: cannot remove `check_rootkit.out.8': Permission denied > > You may have either a failing drive, or corrupt filesystem. Do a "dmesg" > and see if there are any strange I/O errors. Also check /var/log/messages > for any similar errors. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (96% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh