what about non command players ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: Re: apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People) > Already addressed, but here's a partial list. > To replace itunes, you can use: > vlc, quicktime, real player, audacity, audio hijack, and various > command-line utilities if you don't mind using the terminal application. > This is of course, only a partial list, depending on what you were > planning on using ITunes for. If you want the itunes store, there's > nothing to replace it, unless you use audible, since most of it's > content is available on the itunes store. However, in general itunes > can be avoided except in the case of a very few specialized tasks > such as playing audible content since audible has an itunes plugin > that allows playing audible content on the mac. > On Apr 2, 2006, at 4:22 PM, hank smith wrote: > >> what alternitive players is there besides itunes? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jane Jordan (gmail)" <juanitatighan at gmail.com> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:20 AM >> Subject: Re: apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind >> People) >> >> >>> Actually iTunes is usable to some extent--honest. You just have to >>> remember where you are on the screen. Mind you, there are >>> alternative players that I mostly use now. iTunes is somethingI use >>> mainly fr when I want music that's playing selected for my >>> LiveJournal entries that I do on this machine. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2006, at 4:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: RIPEMD160 >>>> >>>> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over >>>> heavily >>>> but I did give Itunes a try. Forget it! Itunes was quieter than a >>>> church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in Coco >>>> framework in order for Voice Over to work. Itunes and the ports of >>>> Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just >>>> flat >>>> don't work in Voice Over. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: >>>>> What are you talking about? >>>>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, >>>>> cd/ >>>>> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, >>>>> and to >>>>> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% >>>>> accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast >>>>> creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, >>>>> there's >>>>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it. >>>>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but >>>>> there's >>>>> always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) >>>>> works, >>>>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry >>>>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine. >>>>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video >>>>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD >>>>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers >>>>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using >>>>> the >>>>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ >>>>> better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store, >>>>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not >>>>> usable. 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