Do you have any documentation for this claim? I am on the NFB-CS list and never heard a thing about this. At 10:07 PM 3/31/2006, Travis Siegel wrote: >Actually, Microsoft *tried* to include a screen reader with their >operating system. But, after the nfb got done raking them over the >coals claiming it would bankrupt all the 3rd-party developers of >screen readers, ms toned it down, and it became ... narrator. >So, if you want to blame someone for ms not having a built-in screen >reader like OSX does, Call your local NFB office, and ask them. >On Mar 31, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Darragh wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Lets not be unrealistic here. The developers of this machine are > > out to make > > money. Their not out to help all us por unfortunate blind people. > > We don't > > live in an ideal world, People don't ordinarily write accessible > > software > > out of the goodness of their heart and Microsoft won't start > > shipping screen > > readers with their operating systems. > > > > My point is: Lets stop debating amunxt our selves. Stop complaining > > that we > > have to pay higher prices for accessible hardware and software. > > Lets face > > it, most of us would charge the same if not more if given the > > chance and why > > not! A lot of development and research go into these things. > > > > I've read some really thought out messages regarding this topic in > > the last > > few days. I'd say one thing to the authors of these rants: "Do you > > not think > > your energy would be better spent attacking software developers > > such as > > adobe and Microsoft rather than writing pointless arguments on a > > list where > > lets face it, most people hate paying for windows software never > > mind access > > software to read it! > > > > That's my minor rant over for the night. > > > > Darragh > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- > > bounces at braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: 01 April 2006 01:08 > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: New Linux PDA For Blind People > > > > ace writes: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> What is actually included on the hand-held part of the unit? > > > > Most important, the hard drive is in the hand held. Also, the radios > > will be in there, though initially only WiFi. > > > > As for software, everything is in there too. But, you probably don't > > want to write very much email--or your Ph.D. thesis using only the > > 12-key. > > > > I should say that I'm writing the manual. Here's an excerpt from the > > current Table Of Contents: > > > > > > Doing Things: The Icon's Applications > > The Bookshelf: Integrated DAISY and BookShare Browser > > The News Stand: Magazines and Newspapers -- Your Daily Diet Of News > > The Jukebox: A HiFi Stereo Music Player In The Palm Of Your Hand > > Planner: Addressbook, Calendar, Appointments, And Automated Reminders > > Taking Notes: One Touch Audio Recording or Text Notes--You Choose > > Word Processor > > E-Mail > > Web Browser > > Podcast Player: The Latest Thing Made Easy > > Tracking Your Money: The Icon's Financial Tools > > The Calculator: > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup