Hi, so basically the kernel version could be used to get the operating system installed and to read your boot messages on Linux. The user space version could be used to work with other operating systems and allow you to update your kernel with out losing speakup. Sounds like the best of both worlds to this boy. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:10 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup in user space, why or why not? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Comparing speakup to yasr or emacspeak is like comparing a sports car to a bicycle. Speakup by far gives much better access to the text console than emacspeak and yasr combined. Even brltty, if you have access to a braille display gives better access to the console than emacspeak or yasr. Take brltty as an example. As soon as it loads into memory, the user has access to every character on the screen, including the login prompt, and none of it is in the kernel. It can run on several different Unix-like operating systems with no trouble. Any screen reader should give the same console access, which is what makes Speakup the best thing going right now. The problem is cross-OS compatibility. Since Speakup is entirely kernel-based, there is no way to port it to other operating systems or to allow new linux users who are afraid of compiling a kernel for the first time or who don't know how or want to deviate from the stock kernel of their distro to use it. Emacspeak, on the other hand, requires that the user already be logged in in order to use it, and yasr is the same in that regard. Emacspeak requires emacs in order to function and yasr gets its console data by opening a pseudoterminal and running a shell in it, which can't be done until the user is already logged in. Plus, using yasr is like using speakup with the cursoring turned off. It can really be a pain to navigate around the console sometimes. Take it from an avid speakup user, both with hardware speech on one computer and software speech on the other, I wouldn't want to use anything else for console speech. I just think it would be appropriate to have a similar screen reader with all the functionality of Speakup without having to recompile my kernel to get it. And it would also be nice to be able to run the same screen reader on other operating systems such as FreeBSD without having to use 2 computers. Hope this explains things more clearly, Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQKEGG9IpekrhBfIRAkZ5AJ9TLhzRKAKOY9ihiYL+HpYwZvFtnwCfYVnt hTO5tmy1j7dgRNNyEEKCdgA= =8zhH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
