Well ... I hope to prove you wrong Laura my dear, since that's exactly what Will and the rest of us are doing with the OSSRP that you've heard us talking about on the other list. SVG makes a great deal of the contextual part of this possible. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Laura Eaves Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:56 PM To: Sean McMahon; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: An idea, Hi Sean -- Were you at the nfb convention when they demoed the pocket kurzweil reader? It was quite interesting -- kind of slow, but they have projections of just such a technology, that could be even pointed at objects like street signs for a blind person to read... But obviously it still has a long way to go for that to happen. Anyway, it is supposed to be available for several thousand dollars sometime next year, so it will be interesting where it goes. As for operating a GUI, however, I think such a thing would be essentially useless as you would really need to still get inside the software to track focus and other such things. At best it would be usable marginally but far from practical. Just some comments. --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: An idea, They really should have a device that can be trained to understand certain shapes and just say what they are. Some which you could point at any visual serface.