Can't remember -- I think it had 34 in the name. on Wednesday 07/27/2005 hank smith(hanksmith4 at earthlink.net) wrote > what program? just curiousity > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John covici" <covici at ccs.covici.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: An idea, > > > > Well, I am not sure how it worked, but I once tried an X server for > > windows which was able to figure out the controls under Linux and my > > windows screen reader was able to read them after a fashion, so I > > wonder if there is some window information passed to the Xserver after > > all. > > > > on Wednesday 07/27/2005 Kelly Prescott(prescott at deltav.org) wrote > > > hmm, a interesting concept... > > > The problem is that by the time the x server sees most of the stuff, it > is > > > just screen position renderings. The server does not have a concept of > > > letters, characters, etc. > > > The server knows where you click on a screen, for example, but it just > > > sends the information to the under lying application which is > responsible > > > for deciding if you have clicked on a button etc. > > > This is a over simplified explaination, but for our purposes, it will > > > do... > > > Bottom line is that what ever toolbox, library, wigit set, rendering > app, > > > or what ever, it must feed the textual information to some interface > for > > > the screen reader to get at it so it can be read. > > > Hope this helps. > > > kp > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > Here's another idea, maybe no one has thought of it yet, or maybe it > is > > > > impossible to implement, but here it goes. > > > > > > > > It seems that the existing approaches for X screen readers should be > taking a > > > > look at Speakup as a model. Gnopernicus, for example, is using > libraries that > > > > rely on certain information ent by the underlying application > libraries. > > > > Unfortunately, this implementation causes only some apps to speak > while others > > > > which use the same widgets but whose libraries don't send messages to > the > > > > accessibility system will not speak. But it occurs to me that X is > simply a > > > > protocol by which client applications send messages to a server which > renders > > > > the proper text, windows, buttons and other widgets on the screen. I > believe > > > > that a screen reader that is an extension to the X server itself, > (like Speakup > > > > is a set of patches to the kernel) would be a far better solution, as > it could > > > > capture everything sent to the server and correctly translate it into > humanly > > > > understandable speech output without relying on "accessibility > messages" being > > > > sent from the client apps. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts on this would be welcome. > > > > > > > > Lorenzo > > > > - -- > > > > - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > > > Version: 3.12 > > > > GCS d- s:+ a- C+++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E- W++ N o K- w--- > > > > O M V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5+ X+ R tv-- b++ DI-- D+ > > > > G e* h---- r+++ y+++ > > > > - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > > > iD8DBQFC5wJhG9IpekrhBfIRAuhgAKDNMp7ThoUKPYqiWC+u8WB3RS0oKQCgulck > > > > 2KEeJCAheJfd5oqbbUgiM5k= > > > > =lUXl > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici at ccs.covici.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 > > > > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com
