what program? just curiousity ----- Original Message ----- From: "John covici" <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: An idea, > Well, I am not sure how it worked, but I once tried an X server for > windows which was able to figure out the controls under Linux and my > windows screen reader was able to read them after a fashion, so I > wonder if there is some window information passed to the Xserver after > all. > > on Wednesday 07/27/2005 Kelly Prescott(prescott at deltav.org) wrote > > hmm, a interesting concept... > > The problem is that by the time the x server sees most of the stuff, it is > > just screen position renderings. The server does not have a concept of > > letters, characters, etc. > > The server knows where you click on a screen, for example, but it just > > sends the information to the under lying application which is responsible > > for deciding if you have clicked on a button etc. > > This is a over simplified explaination, but for our purposes, it will > > do... > > Bottom line is that what ever toolbox, library, wigit set, rendering app, > > or what ever, it must feed the textual information to some interface for > > the screen reader to get at it so it can be read. > > Hope this helps. > > kp > > > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Here's another idea, maybe no one has thought of it yet, or maybe it is > > > impossible to implement, but here it goes. > > > > > > It seems that the existing approaches for X screen readers should be taking a > > > look at Speakup as a model. Gnopernicus, for example, is using libraries that > > > rely on certain information ent by the underlying application libraries. > > > Unfortunately, this implementation causes only some apps to speak while others > > > which use the same widgets but whose libraries don't send messages to the > > > accessibility system will not speak. But it occurs to me that X is simply a > > > protocol by which client applications send messages to a server which renders > > > the proper text, windows, buttons and other widgets on the screen. I believe > > > that a screen reader that is an extension to the X server itself, (like Speakup > > > is a set of patches to the kernel) would be a far better solution, as it could > > > capture everything sent to the server and correctly translate it into humanly > > > understandable speech output without relying on "accessibility messages" being > > > sent from the client apps. > > > > > > Any thoughts on this would be welcome. > > > > > > Lorenzo > > > - -- > > > - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > > Version: 3.12 > > > GCS d- s:+ a- C+++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E- W++ N o K- w--- > > > O M V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5+ X+ R tv-- b++ DI-- D+ > > > G e* h---- r+++ y+++ > > > - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQFC5wJhG9IpekrhBfIRAuhgAKDNMp7ThoUKPYqiWC+u8WB3RS0oKQCgulck > > > 2KEeJCAheJfd5oqbbUgiM5k= > > > =lUXl > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici at ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 7/25/2005 > >
