I have done everything I can think of to get off this list: first I followed the link to the URL that appears at the end of every message sent to this list , typed in my e-mail in the little form and hit the unsubsribe button , which confirmed that an e-mail was sent to my address and that I was removed, but that was a lie so then I sent an e-mail to speakup-request at braille.uwo.ca with "unsubscribe" as the subject and that didn't work either, so then I decided to send my "unsubscribe" message to the list itself to see if that would work any better, which it didn't, unfortunately. The next thing I might do is to see if I can log into my account and remove myself that way or at least change my status to receive this list in digest form. Thanks and many happy returns of the day, Mike