Well, I can access it fine with the chain but not with the cat. this is on my debian installation; i'm in the process of reinstalling my Fedora (I DID dISK dRUID!!!) so can't check it with another lynx right now. Oh, it just occurred to me to try it with my shellworld lynx by ssh. That works, so it is indeed something with my setup of lynx or my internet connection or something. sorry, but it's strange that it would show up on this one website and not with any other sites I'm accessing. Very weird. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."