It appears that the red Hat Installation guide either is no longer up or at least can't be accessed from the howto on the speakup site. If I hit this link either in the section listing guides or later in section Four Installing, I'm taken to a page with a link that says Introduction and that's all. If I hit enter on the introduction link, the first two links say "red Hat Linux 9" and the third says "How to Use this Manual" but you only go back to the link that says "introduction" unless you choose the third link. There you find a fourth link that takes you to a page with a fifth link. In other words, it appears that the index is there but the material isn't. I don't remember anybody else pointing this out. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."