hi chuck, you might want to consider endoshield for now, http://endoshield.sourceforge.net it's a simple shell script that takes care of any firewalling you might want to do. check it out. it's really nifty. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman