I think the problem there chuck is that that driver is at too lower level for gnopernicus to make any real use of. however, as I'm not a kernel hacker, or a hacker of any kind, saave the odd useless shell script, doesn't mean it's impossible. that's just my oppinion and I've probably got myself out of my deapth on this so I'll sit back and read on. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman