ok I'm not quoting comments because there's an aweful lot of them. the Triple-talk USB has provision for serial connectivity as well which is probably why kirk suggested it. However I don't lay claim to knowing kirk's reasoning. in any event, as I understand it you can't use an USB to serial converter because the USB to serial uses a different uuart than a standard serial port. the problem with Triple-talk is this. access solutions as I understand it want people to sign an NDA [NON-Disclosure Agreement] before they release the specs on the synth. i.e. Technical documentation command codes etc. NDAs are not the way of the free software movement and signing such an agreement suggests you're not going to release any specs as per the agreement. quite simply you're not allowed to release source code with anything you have to sign an NDA for thus violating the terms of the GPL. I hope this answers most of your questions. This however doesn't mean someone won't hack at the triple-talk and have a fair crack at making it work in it's native mode. -- We are going to give a little something, a few little years more, to socialism, because socialism is defunct. It dies all by itself. The bad thing is that socialism, being a victim of its ... Did I say socialism? -- Fidel Castro Shaun Oliver http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/