You are correct speakup will not compile on any 64 bit machine that I am aware of. There is a problem which I have not been able to figure out the answer to yet. Admitedly I haven't spent much time on it yet because of other projects. If anyone does find a solution before I get time to work on it please let me know. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061