first things first, specs of your machine. my money says g++ is dying in the arse because it's not got enough memory to do it's job when it comes to that file. I use to have that problem when I tried to compile ecasound many moons ago. if you machine is better than a p 1 or p 2 then I'm hanged if I know what your problem is. -- "Deep" is a word like "theory" or "semantic" -- it implies all sorts of marvelous things. It's one thing to be able to say "I've got a theory", quite another to say "I've got a semantic theory", but, ah, those who can claim "I've got a deep semantic theory", they are truly blessed. -- Randy Davis Shaun Oliver http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/