Hi. You're sending confusing and wrong information about how to start an X session. If you don't have a display manager running, you would use startx from the console. If you have a display manager such as gdm running, you would log in to the graphical console just the same as a normal user login. Big hint, gdm stands for Gnome Display manager. If you want to use both, you will have to make sure the startx command starts the X session using a display not managed by the display manager. Gdm beeps when it is ready for a user to login. The default window manager for Gnome is metacity, not gdm. Kenny On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 08:44:21AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote: > to start x, just run startx. when all activity stops ( your pc speaker > may beep, I'm not sure) type your username. then hit enter, type your > password, then enter again. if gdm is in fact your default window > manager gnome should come up.