No, it still works. I found out by the same procedure as before. Used links the chain and went to the url you gave; hit enter on listen live. Can't remember but I think there was at least one more place i had to hit listen live. Finally found a link that said listen live and gave the radio station name and letters. Hit on that; got embed. Hit it (I have links set up for mplayer) and on came the station. so went back in links and got it to display and did the url by itself with mplayer. Here it is; don't know if it changed or not since last time but this works: mplayer -playlist rtsp://live1.bonnevillechicago.com/wnnd some of the rtsp links won't work without enabling live in mplayer; I don't know about this one. I did download the from live.com and compile with it; see my original email. Take hear; it isn't lost. Hth. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."