Ok I fixed my talking at bootup problem by hitting the down aro at bootup a few times pressing enter, and speakup came up. I'm still curious though how I make the new kernel bootup talking sinse that became the default. Both entries in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file look identical but one came up talking the other did not. They both end with boot and nothing after the word boot on that line. On a related note, can someone tell me what the version of speakup is in deb kernel-image-2.4.26-1-speakup? The file /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-2.4.26-1-speakup/buildinfo does not specify.