W'w'w'w'wo! hear he, hear he! LOL! ROFL! Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Ervin@home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet > Hello Greg, > Some people learn better by trial and error, as opposed to reading a manual. > You mentioned "laziness or impatient". > I must admit that I am sometimes too impatient to read a manual, but there I > must just consider this a learning style. > Where I can spend hours figuring out a program or O S, and not be > frustrated, I sometimes find it difficult to read a manual, and read through > 80% of material covering common sense, and 10% of stuff I will never need, > only to get to a small portion of help that I really need. > So when someone asks me if I read the manual, I want to ask them something > rude in return, but I don't. > I think this is one of the reasons a list like this exists. > If I am wrong, I'll be glad to leave. > Glenn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romuald.net.eu.org> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet > > > By asking if Chris had read the docs, I was simply attempting to > determine which parts of the configuration he was specifically having > trouble with. Configuring alsa can be an involved process, and I > didn't want to give an unnecessarily long explanation, when I could > have spent the same amount of time addressing a particular issue in > more detail. > > Also, I am finding that I need to ask people if they have read the > documentation, as unfortunate as that may be. The sad fact is that > most people expect someone else to do everything for them, while they > expect to learn nothing about it, and take advantage of the other > person's work on their behalf at the same time. I don't mind teaching > and explaining whatever I can. However I do mind if someone just > expects me to do all the work for them because they're to > lazy/impatient to read up on the procedure themselves. Note that > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup